This is the second post on my recent trip to Waco for the DCB Fantastical Church Music Conference. In my previous post, I talked about what I enjoyed about the conference and the good things that I took away from the conference. In this post, I’m going to talk about some of the things that I did not like and why I believe they were unbiblical.
One of the speakers that we heard was Rob Bell. He talked about words and the power of words and how we use them in worship. Rob certainly knows how to use words! He is very dynamic and I thoroughly enjoyed him as a speaker. However, he has some ideas that if followed to their logical conclusions leave us far from Scripture and the way the Lord has instructed us in worship.
The premise of Rob Bell’s session was that we learn to use words in such a way as to create a context to orient people in a similar physical direction so that we can then move to the spiritual. More simplified, here is a possible interpretation: We use words and external factors (specifically applied to worship, but also in evangelism) in order to get people’s attention, get them all on the same page, and then hopefully unite them spiritually. To break it down even further, Rob said that we can use elements like mood lighting, smoke machines, hyped-up worship times, and emotionally arousing verbal transitions to arouse a response that many people think is spiritual but is simply nothing more than an emotional high derived from the psychological influences of a well-done musical performance. Several times he said we use the physical nature of things to put people on the same page before moving to the spiritual. If the spiritual takes a backseat to external factors, where is the authority? It certainly isn’t in Scripture if the spiritual comes second to emotionally driven aspects of “doing church.”
Rob Bell in several instances also made fun of the idea of trying to “be Biblical.” He said that we can’t get all wrapped up in trying to be theologically correct. I think we have to be extremely careful here because some will use this to say that we don't necessarily have to be careful about what we preach and whether or not it is consistent with Scripture and sound doctrine. In 1st Timothy and Titus, Paul emphasizes that it’s not okay to abdicate the absolutism of the truths of Scripture, but that we teach what is in accordance with sound doctrine. In several instances, Mr. Bell came across as if he were promoting a Christianity that drew from what it felt was important whether it was Scriptural or not, as opposed to promoting a Berean body of believers who should continually examine the ideas of men to ensure their consistency with the ultimate source of truth, the Bible.
The last thing from Rob Bell that has the potential to be dangerously misleading was his thought concerning the analogies we use to describe the Gospel. Rob said we don’t necessarily have to stick to Scripture to find ways to describe the Gospel. Rather, we ought to find other analogies from the culture to tell people about the work of Jesus Christ, which is fine so long as the analogy does not in any way give a wrong or incomplete depiction of the Gospel. The challenge is actually finding one. Now granted, all analogies have limits and we need to recognize that, but what Bell was proposing was using the world’s ways to compare the principles of salvation and the Gospel. 1st Corinthians makes it clear that the difference between the natural and the spiritual is irreconcilable. The world and Christianity are not compatible, so there really isn’t a way to draw an analogy from the world’s culture and it be entirely in tune with the truth of the Gospel. I also believe that it’s futile to try and make an unbeliever understand the truth of the Gospel except for by the work of the Spirit. 1st Corinthians 2:14 says, “The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” By saying that we ought to find new analogies outside of Scripture, Rob is implying that we can find ways to make people understand in our own strength apart from the work of Christ, and he’s placing an unnecessary burden on Christians to make people understand. Not one time did Rob even acknowledge the work of the Spirit in a man’s heart when He draws men to Himself. It seemed to be more about us and what we can do and our words that can bring a person to making a decision for Christ. Yes, we certainly are to proclaim the Gospel, but we can't take the responsibility of making people understand. Only the Lord has that power. I believe that we certainly can draw from our own testimonies experiences as believers in our evangelism, so long as what we say is consistent with the truth of the Gospel.
One session that I did not enjoy at all was by Josh Griffin, the high school minister at Saddleback Church in California. He talked about students leading worship and what churches ought to do or keep in mind when they incorporate youth as worship leaders. Before I jump into this one, I just want to give two principles so that you will know the frame of reference that I am drawing from when I analyze this man’s workshop.
I believe that as God’s church, and as a body commanded to be pure and undefiled from the world, that all of our music ought to glorify God in every way, all the time. The church cannot allow influences from the world to affect the way God designed it to function.
I also believe that what you win people with is what you win them to, meaning that what you use to draw people is what they accept, learn to desire and claim as their own. As the church, what are we told to use to win the world? The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Anything less is subpar, unbiblical and out of the question. We win people with the Gospel of Christ because that is what has the power to change hearts and draw people to the Lord.
With that being said, let me share some of the things that I found disturbing, and yes even appalling, about Josh Griffin’s workshop. First of all, the bar of expectations for students in worship was set every low. Standards of dress, behavior, and lifestyle for students in worship were set at a level just high enough to set them apart from the average crowd, but not enough to challenge them to strive for excellence. Also, the general requirements for those involved made membership on the worship team seem more like a job in an organization as opposed to people coming together to lead in the worship of God. Yes, I believe that worship leaders ought to be committed and involved, but not where external stipulations usurp spiritual emphasis. The ideas that Josh presented in many ways elevated the physical requirements of worship over the spiritual reasons for worship, downplaying the importance given to those who lead the people into the presence of God. He never once mentioned making sure that the students involved understood what it meant to lead people in the worship the sovereign Ruler of creation.
Another thing that was very repulsive and the saddest thing in the whole workshop was the idea of using secular music in the worship service. Yes, secular music. Josh Griffin proposed that churches (specifically for youth groups) use secular pop, rock, rap and other genres of music in the time designated for music. I’m not exactly sure where in Scripture he found that idea… His argument is that we have to provide something unsaved people are familiar with so that they don’t feel awkward by coming to church. My argument is that we have to let Christianity be what it is: radically different and unlike anything of the world. Why stoop to the elements of culture when Christianity propounds a life opposite of what the world offers? Romans chapter 12 tells us not to be conformed to the world, but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. When churches use secular music, how is that living up to the command to not be transformed to the world? What you win people with is what you win them to. If we use secular music in the process of winning people to Christ we’re winning them to something that really isn’t different from the world. We’re called to win people to the Light. How can we expect to do that by providing dark? Why give people an inaccurate expectation of what Christianity is?
As a worship leader and someone who holds the principles of worship dear to my heart, I am very passionate about keeping the worship of our Lord pure and undefiled. When I hear teachings that promote ideas allowing for worldliness to enter our houses of praise, it pierces my heart! Markets and money-changers have entered the temple once more. When did the modern church begin to think that Christianity isn’t radically different from the world? When did it become okay not to require excellence in our standards? What makes it okay for us to sit by and allow the ways of the world to become an acceptable alternative to the commands of Christ for His church? What will it take for us as Christians to see that satan is being allowed to build strongholds in our churches when we passively watch the things of this world take from the truth of the Gospel. If Christ is jealous for His church, what must He feel when our churches are participating in idolatry by using songs in worship that don't please and glorify only Him? Maybe that’s too much to ask. Maybe we’re not holy enough. Perhaps God understands. But what if it’s not too much to ask? What if we’re not living up to the expectations God has for us, His church? What if God only understands that He has set apart for Himself a generation, a royal priesthood, and a holy nation called to sing forth the praises of Him?
It’s not up to us to decide how we worship God. The Lord has given us clear direction for how we ought to orient our lives, and that is in a direction that puts God at the center, with everything else revolving around the Son. Our ultimate purpose for being on this earth is to bring glory and honor to the matchless Name of Christ. Let’s not taint it by allowing the vain thoughts of men or the elements of the world to pervade our church, but let us hold fast to the immeasurable riches of the Word of God.
This conference has given me so much food for thought. Those of you who know me as a blogger can probably guess what's coming next…yep, I’m going to do another series! This is the second part of my thoughts from the conference, but as I have time I will be composing another series on worship, aside from the conference. But until then, sing praises to the Lord and bless His Name!
To an Audience of One,
Joshua
What’s the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?
…You only have to punch the information into a drum machine once! :)
Yes, I did learn more at the DCB Fantastical Church Music Conference than corny drummer jokes, just in case you were wondering! My friend Daniel and I went to the conference in Waco, TX last weekend at Baylor University and overall, it was well worth the trip! We stayed about four blocks from campus with Daniel’s cousin Tracy and her husband Vincent, so that made it very convenient for getting to the conference each day. Here’s just a brief run-down of the events of the conference and then I’ll share what the Lord taught me during the conference.
We left around noon last Thursday and it took us somewhere around four hours to get to Waco. Once we dropped our stuff off at Tracy’s, we went to register for the conference and then waited in an incredibly long line until the doors opened at 6:00 p.m. The bands for the opening session were The Welcome Wagon, and a new band called Gungor, who were absolutely amazing by the way! The speaker for that night was Francis Chan. Following a 30 minute break, we went to the campus coffee shop, Common Grounds, to hear more from Gungor.
Friday morning kicked off with a group called Bifrost Arts, who had a neat combination of band and orchestral instruments and sang mostly hymns. We then heard speaker Rob Bell, followed by the band Leeland, who was also phenomenal! The A.M. workshops were next and Daniel and I went to hear a session on songwriting by Matt Redman, Matt Maher and John Mark McMillan. After lunch, we had another large group session with a panel of different speakers discussing the question, “Why do we sing?” which was also the theme of the conference this year. After the panel discussion, Daniel and I went to hear the workshop by Bob Kauflin on the limits of creativity in worship (and I’ll explain more about that later on). After that was our dinner break and then the evening group session. The opening band was Israel Houghton (yick!), the speaker was Louie Giglio (yes!) and the closing band was Hillsong London (yeah…). Later, Daniel and I saw performances by The Civil Wars, and Jars of Clay.
The last day began with workshops, and Daniel and I made the mistake of going to a session called “Students Leading Worship” by who we later found out was the high school minster at Rick Warren’s church in California. Talk about a total waste of time! After that we had the last group session opened by a folksy band called Michael Crawford and His Secret Siblings. Don’t ask me where they got the name! They were pretty good though, and then we heard the last speaker, a guy named David Dark who was very philosophical and had some neat things to say. Then, everything was finished up with none other than…a little group called the David Crowder Band. I think they’re originally from Waco or something… ;-)
So yep, that’s the conference! Now I’ll share some of the things that really resonated with me.
Francis Chan, Louie Giglio and Bob Kauflin were by far my favorite speakers of the weekend, and I greatly enjoyed Matt Redman and Matt Maher as well. One of the things that Francis Chan talked about was how worship is not just music, but it’s all that we do to bring glory, honor and praise to God. He talked about the importance of living lives of worship and being characterized as people of God, challenging each person to step beyond the expectations and raise the bar for today’s Christianity. If our stories were stuck in God’s Word, would our worship fit with the testimonies of the saints that have gone before us? Would people look at how we live for God and say, “Wow, that reminds me of Moses, or David!” or would they sit back and say, “Well that certainly was boring.” Sadly, I believe a lot of the stories of our Christianity today would evoke a response more like the latter. We need to live like Bible material!
Bob Kauflin’s workshop on the limits of creativity was probably my favorite session of the weekend. He asked the question, “How innovative can we be with the Gospel?” meaning, how far can we go in our creativity before we distract from, detract from, or distort the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Mr. Kauflin used water as an analogy to creativity. When water has limits (i.e. banks for rivers, shores for seas, and pipes for house water) it serves a purpose and is beneficial. But, when water breaks out of those limits (i.e. floods, tsunamis, and busted pipes), it is damaging and no longer serves a purpose. Creativity is a wonderful thing, but it needs limits. Humans are creative because we were made in the image of Christ, Who is more creative than anyone or anything in existence. Our creativity is a wonderful reflection of the nature of God, but we must make sure that in being creative in worship we don’t take away from the Gospel of Christ. This would mean that we strive to use creativity in our musical worship times in church to point people to Christ. If people go away saying, “Wow, Joshua led that worship song really well, he did such a wonderful job,” then I used creativity in some way that took away from God, essentially robbing Him of His deserved adoration. Worship ought to be led in such a way that worshippers go away with a new understanding of who God is, how great He is, and ultimately with an even greater desire to know Him more and to make Him known.
My last thought is from the songwriting workshop, which I thoroughly enjoyed. As an amateur songwriter, I’m always looking to learn about how I can compose better songs. This session was mostly the personal philosophies of the different songwriters. One of the things that Matt Maher said was that you can’t divorce your personal experiences from your songwriting. Music is an artistic expression of something personally valuable or meaningful. We draw from what we know (God’s Word, life experiences and lessons, and personal feelings) when we write songs and we also draw from the level of intimacy that we have with Christ. Maher encouragement was to have a deeply developed prayer life and know Christ as intimately as we can so that the level of closeness to Him is reflected in our manifestations of praise. The piece of advice that I gleaned from Matt Redman was his personal purpose of learning to enjoy God. As Christians, our primary purpose in life is to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever, and the more we enjoy Him the more we will want to praise Him. When you enjoy something, you think about it, want to do it more and want to talk about it. The more we enjoy God, the more we will want to think about Him, talk about Him, and enjoy Him more and more. The more I enjoy God, the more I will want to praise Him through song and tell others about what my wonderful Savior means to me, an undeserving sinner.
So, there you have it! Those are the things that meant the most to me from the conference and I pray that there might be some nugget of truth that you can take away as well as you continue to grow in your worship and live every moment as an offering of praise to our glorious, wonderful God!
In my next post, I intend to talk about some of the things that I did not enjoy about the conference (speakers, bands, etc.), but that will have to wait for another time! This post is already longer than I expected it to be, but oh well…I suppose that’s typical of me as a writer!
Until then… “Sing praises to the Lord, O you His saints, and give thanks to His holy Name.” ~Psalm 30:4
Joshua
Hi y'all!
This weekend I'm going to the David Crowder Fantastical Church Music Conference at Baylor University in Waco, TX (and yes, they are in fact calling it the fantastical church music conference). I'm really looking forward to hearing speakers like Bob Kaughlin, Louie Giglio, Matt Maher, Matt Redman, and Francis Chan. Some of the bands/artists that will be there are Hillsong London, Leeland, Jars of Clay, Derek Webb, John Mark McMillan, and of course, the David Crowder Band. As is typical with these kinds of conferences, there are several speakers and bands that I'm not too excited about hearing, but oh well, I think I'll live! ;-) From looking at the schedule, there will be lots of good sessions and topics for me to hear and I'm really excited about going. I'm anticipating a great time of learning about worship, song-writing, and many other things. I'm also really looking forward to spending time with friends. My good friend Daniel and also a fellow worship leader named Dusten will be going to the conference so I'm looking forward to the time I'll get to hang out with them as well. I'll let y'all know how it went when I get home and I'll try to post some pictures as well!
Oh, and have I mentioned that I'm really excited about being in a courtship with Anna? Well, just in case I haven't...
I'm really, really, REALLY excited about being in a courtshp with Anna! :)
Later!
Joshua
This week I have been able to get away from the regular routine of life and attend a regional conference with my family. The time has been incredible as God has really just chiseled, chipped, broken, molded, shaped and refined my heart in ways I couldn’t even imagine! It seems that through the past several months, it’s been difficult for me to be passionate about my relationship with Christ. In my heart of hearts, I have found it difficult to seek and find fulfillment and nourishment in my times spent with the Lord. I would read God’s Word every day and yeah I could talk about what God was doing in my life and what I was learning new, but I didn’t sense completeness in Christ. When you aren’t filling your life totally with Christ, you open yourself for discouragement and I guess that’s where you could say I have been in my personal life during the past several months. This week, I’ve been able to read books, spend time fasting and praying, and really just eliminate the distractions of everyday life and let God speak to me. As I’ve been able to spend hours in deep thought and meditation, God’s given me a new appreciation for the place in life that He has me right now. I’ve noticed that my distracted faith has really stemmed from a discontentment with where God has me. The hopes and dreams of a young man are many as he grows and struggles and sometimes I have a tendency to let myself get wrapped up in where I’d like to be as opposed to being contentment where He wants me. God uses the different times in our lives for different reasons and the Lord has had to correct my attitudes in more ways than one! This week has helped me see that God has me right where He wants me!
Another thing that has really been good this week is the fact that I’ve been able to spend time talking with my parents and just “re-connecting” with them. My relationship with my parents is better than I could ever hope for, but it never hurts to keep communication lines open! I’ve really been realizing the great treasure that I have in my parents lately. It seems that as I get older there are more and more things for which I desperately need their counsel and insight and yes, even correction!
As I finish up this brief, rambling update, let me just leave you with a thought that the Lord has shown me during this conference. One of my major focuses this week is being content where the Lord has me in life and one aspect of that is being a servant to those whom God has placed in my life. One of the speakers (Mr. Dulin) spoke last night about being servant-minded and an analogy he gave really struck home with me in how we are to minister to those around us. I like to think of myself as a helper; I like to think that I can help people and that people can benefit from what I have to say or think. But the Lord really showed me that my attitude really only amounts to pride! Christ didn’t call us to be helpers, He called us to be servants. When you have the mindset that your job is to “help” people, you tend to look at others as in a lower position than you are, which leads to pride. But, if you try to serve people, it places you lower than they are so that you have to reach up to them in the love and service of Christ. God has shown me that I don’t need to worry about helping people because what I have to offer in and of myself isn’t the best God has; I need to strive to serve them and pour out the love of Christ Jesus which is what has the true power to change hearts and transform lives.
May God bless each of you as you strive to serve Him and one another!
To an Audience of One,
Joshua
About Me
- Joshua
- Average will never suit me. Perfection may never define me. The former is too often accepted and the latter often only desired. I cannot resign to complacency and I cannot simply DESIRE perfection. I must PURSUE it! Though an impossible task, a man named Jesus came to earth and lived a perfect life, and He commands others to do the same. I am proud to bear His standard and will strive to meet His charge. Until my race is over and I’ve written my last line, I will seek perfection in all areas of my life, not because the goal in and of itself is a worthy end, but because of the One who gave it.
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